Sunday 13 February 2011

Bad experince

I had very little knowledge about investment in stock market, I decided to go for an experts advise and to create a small portfolio and leave it for few years.

I came across Arun, who calls himself stock Guru. And I decided to become a paid member, and did so.

I invested my money across various stocks which he gave really good ratings and sounded very very confident.

They are the below ones, and my current portfolio status.



















Stock Current price Inv. Price Profit/Loss Arun Recommanded @ Arun's comments Date
Apple Finance 3.08 7.3 -57.81% 6 its a win-win situation for all Aug-10
Concurrent 11.55 24 -51.88% Various level
Jai Balaji 185 216.5 -14.55% 206 Go for it guys. < 08-12-2009
Magnum 6.2 12.6 -50.79% 10 A solid buy. Aug-10
MOLD Tek Tech 74.5 71.3 4.49% 77 Aug-09
Ok Play 25.45 27.1 -6.09% < Dec-2009
Pioneer 42.5 74.5 -42.95% 67 good sound buy for the longer term Aug-10
SMS Pharma 186.4 171.43 8.73% < Dec-2009
SQL Star 11.48 18.3 -37.27% 16 a good trading play < Dec-2009
Sumedha Fiscal 22 16.3 34.97% 14 < Nov-2009
Twinstar 2.67 4.55 -41.32% < Jan-2010
Vijay Shanthi 23.05 46.67 -50.61% 50 < Jan-2010


This is my portfolio after listening, waiting for around 1.5 years in some stocks L



I am not a critic? I posted my above portfolio and asked what I should do,

I know I could not blame him, but wanted to know, what I should be doing, hold it, shuffle my portfolio or what else?

I was in a hope that I could get a reply from him or some one else in his community, as i got very less idea and thought he or some one else in the forum would have better idea.



But!! My post got deleted just like that, and he did not even bother to reply to me even personally anything!!!



Now I am just wondering, does this guy really know anything?

All the places, where he talks is one way communication, blogs cant be commented, mail contact that no one else would see, Orkut community where no one else can say anything about him.

Has anyone else had similar experience? May be you can use my blogs to comment here :P

When he gives any tip, I have always noticed, it would be 5% better than the actual value.

In the 6 months I was his member, I did not see any multibaggers, but I used to get notification about previous multibaggers!!!!

Don know how his PFM is doing!!!

Not: I just feel silly to do this, and its not abt the money, but i think i diserved a better response, having been a paid member.

70 comments:

  1. I also had similar exp...He gets money from thousands of people like us & he utilise it for his investment....He doesnt bother once u pay him....I was in his orkut community also & then unsubscribed later....He says he got some share @ 10rs when the share is 100rs...
    I dono its my hardluck or he is cheater but there r few more to add like futura, Innovassynth,etc.,

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  2. look for the fundamentals u'rself,dont believe anyone.learn to invest but dont invest blindly

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  3. the reason why we pay for analysis is bz we don either have the knowledge and time. thats why I subscribed to arun, I dont hold him responsible for the outcome of its performance, but when I request for advise on what I should do after allmost all the stocks he recomanded turned out bad, I was expecting him to say, the companies expectation has changed, so better to sell them or to say it still holds gud, hold on to the stock. But rather he decided to block me in all conversation possible. But I was stupid, I should have realised, if a guy can predict such multibaggers, why would he try so much in orkut, facebook, blog, pms, etc. well learned from my mistakes :)

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  4. Hey Rajesh,
    This is Kumar here. I am analysing Arun's picks too. IS there are number I can call you on to talk?
    Thanks!
    Kumar

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  5. Kumar: I am in UK, you can mail me, I would respond immediatly (atleast for sure over weekend), my Id: rajeshs16@gmail.com

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  6. Does anybody has any expereince on HBJ capital? They sent me couple of excels which gives their past performance. It seems good but you never know...

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  7. i was about to invest gng by his advise ,,.... but thanks to u guys i guess i will be ablw to save some moner now

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  8. thanks guys. my experience with this guy was mostly negative. he seems to be an operator. be careful. fast moves up or down - then no where.

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  9. avoid the PMS schemes offered by brokerages..the results are mostly overstated and also you cannot check the validity of their claims..if your do not wish to monitor and analyse stocks yourself, better stick to Mutual Funds.
    PS:
    My experience has been barring some good IPO's, the Mf returns has been better than what i have been able to get on my handpicked stocks.

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  10. Feel sad for your case.
    But I have noticed that no comments are allowed in arunthestockguru posts . I wonder why ???
    I was hoping to become a subscriber. Now am rethinking this..
    Are there more ppl who have been cheated or feel cheated by arunthestockguru

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  11. you did a good job by creating a blog and discussing this fraud called Arunthestockguru. I realized way back that he was a fraud and never invested in his recommended stocks. In simple words no one can predict about stocks, the best way to invest in diversified mutual funds.

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  12. He is an Operator....better research on ur own and invest in Blue chips..

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  13. ARUN IS A BLODDY OPERATOR..I HAVE ANALYSED HIM FROM PAST 2 YEARS...
    BAHUT PAISA BANA LIYA SALLE NE...AB EK KAAM KARO...RESEARCH ON UR OWN THODA BAHUT AND INVEST IN BLUE CHIPS..I MYSELF HAVE STARTED INVESTING IN BLUECHIPS AND HAVE NOT LOST SINGLE MONEY IN PAST ONE YEAR...ALL THE BEST GUYS..

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  14. hi guys,

    i am in stock market from last 8 years. i saw lots of crashes and lots of rises since then. but at the end of the day its my personal experience that all of the small investors get trapped. so don't believe these bastards giving paid calls. simple funda of stock market is invest in scripts with low risk... like Ntpc, HUL, ITC, Dabur...etc i know these don't move much but keep on trading in it whatever u think is best.. invest like SIP and sell like that as well...... in Nov'11 i started buying sail at 110 and had Rs. 50k for investment.. i bought sail till 77.. and collected 500 shares in between that it gave me some trade with profit of Rs 2-3k. but after that it start moving up and i sold 400 at different rates till Rs. 112 and still had 100 shares of shares with Rs. 60000 of cash. and m not trading in share market from last 2 months.

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  15. I have been subscribed to free tips of arunstockguru blog for over 3 years now(http://www.arunthestocksguru.com/) and got some benefit out of it.Few months back I have joined his paid service(www.stocksarun.blogspot.com) and so far it has been a satisfactory performance.Though his calls are good but what I appreciate is the appropriate research report on small and midcaps.They are really worth your money.Let me share some points about it.



    Good points:-



    1)Calls are good.Reserach notes are wonderful

    2)He is fast on reverting back to queries.Always available on phone too.

    3)Highly knowledgable fellow with lot of experiences backing his calls.

    4)Doesnt advertize his product or claims big.Before joining,I myself tried to find a review on his service but couldnt find one.Altogether a good positional stock tip service provider.



    Bad points:-



    1)He doesnt provide stop losses in his positional calls which is a bit odd for guy like me.

    2)Sometimes he recommends call on penny stocks with volumes of 10-20000 which makes it hard for me to buy in bulk.It takes a good number of days to accumulate them.Not his fault really.

    3)His market outlook note is not that great.Its more of a okay okay sort of stuff.



    Conclusion:I have rated it 3 star(3.5 star rather,an extra half star as stock tips have been good inspite of bad stock market environment).You can go for it if you lack time and wants a decent experienced proffesional to handle your stock market dealings.

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    1. Debasis, thanks for your analysis and feedback.
      I am looking to buy arun's paid service, so would like to know how his calls fared with. are all calls generally penny stocks or some well recognized companies as well part of month's published stocks.
      i would also like to get recent reports if you have still access to his site, pls fw me at: pragneshqa@gmail.com

      Thanks in advance.

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  16. His blog has quotes like " I have decided to guide YOU people all my life"..."give me your money I will handle it" ..."stop transacting in my account and u will get thrown out In no time". Please guys stay clear from him. Initially I was impressed with his reports, soon realized that they were all copied from other brokerage and magazine reports.with a heavy dose of fiction.it's a pretty hard scam. Stay clear.
    Some honest sources 1. Outlook money
    2.the equity desk
    3.basants corner

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  17. His blog has quotes like " I have decided to guide YOU people all my life"..."give me your money I will handle it" ..."stop transacting in my account and u will get thrown out In no time". Please guys stay clear from him. Initially I was impressed with his reports, soon realized that they were all copied from other brokerage and magazine reports.with a heavy dose of fiction.it's a pretty hard scam. Stay clear.
    Some honest sources 1. Outlook money
    2.the equity desk
    3.basants corner

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  18. Burned my hands with Concurrent Infra. Don't blame him for the low stock price, but if the company fundamentals itself are changing, it suggests that Arun the stock guru may be fraud. Concurrent and Sicagen are the only companies I bought without any research (based on reco). Sicagen is doing good but it was recommended on a different blog

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  19. PLZ PURCHASE STOCK ON YOUR OWN ANALYSIS. DON NOT BE GET BIASED BY ANYBODY ELSE. IF YU CAN NOT THEN INVEST THROUGH MUTUAL FUND ROUTE. THAT IS BETTER.

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  21. Arun does sound fake---and too good to be true.
    Anyone tried Equitymaster or Saral Gyan?

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  24. Actually investing in penny stocks is good for handsome return.But choosing perfect stock is not a easy thing.I am following moneyseed blog for investing short term period.They provide single target for their calls.I am following them since aug 2013.Almost doubled my investement (2.5 L to 4.96L)now.you can call them on 097890 14381 or visit blog www.nifty-intraday.blogspot.com

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  25. Well you have to choose the stocks based on fundamentals.. every guru will give 100 stocks but its u who needs to choose based on strong fundamentals

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    1. Had u invested in Atul, Arvind, Ratnamani, PTC which are recommended by him you would have earned like anything.. check fundamentals and financials of these companies compare to concorront and jai balaji.. you will realize where you went wrong.. he recommended Atul @ 260.. today it is 750.. Arvind was recommended @80 today it is 200.. Ratnamani got double in 1 month after his recommendation..
      So.think twice before investing.blindly.. u may get 100 tips but choose with fundamentals and read the reprt carefully

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    2. Mukherjee, you are spamming here also. You copy from other websites and paste 200 stocks a year. If 3/4 of them click whats the big deal. The point is you are parasite and put to jail for promoting dalal activities.

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  26. I had the same experience ,but now recovered all my losses by following a free blog named value-picks.blogspot.com .

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  27. SELF ANALYSIS IS THE BEST REMEDY

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  28. I started my PMS with arun around 2010 with 50K. He made all tall promises of keeping in touch every six months and give a proper look at the stocks he picked. He started with some Concurrent infra, Jai bapaji, bhagwati banquet etc. after increasing the profits by 4 thousand there was stead decline in the price of concurrent and this fraud never wrote a single update of PMS. he wrote to me after writing to him through emails several times in a polite way. This continued for 4 years and in 2014 I moved the stocks from the DP account which has a value to less than 1000 rupees. A whooping 48 thousand gone down the drain. In the same period I had picked some stock on my own in other Geojit account and it rose by 16 percent in the same period. This guy is a absolute fraud aged 24 now. He met with a serious accident, he claims in his post, and spend considerable volume of money he made from us. He has some titinium rod in his spine and hips etc. He just can not manage portfolios, period. He picks stocks belonging to BSE and not NSE. It is possible he is hand in glove in insider trading too. Moneylife Magazine had published an article on his doubtful antecedants. Anyway I do not blame him as he was a Harshad Mehta for me. I will never in my rest of life put money is such dumb dodos who run illigal PMS had in glove with Kokata operators. Lessons learned.
    Another thing, he talks all big shit, and never looks at the age of the investor. Why he should put money of a 50 year man say in penny stocks or high beta stocks is a nobrainer. I hope he mends his ways before meeting another slip on a road or stocks! Stay clear of him.

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  29. The markets are only correcting itself some as did our economy - just some correction. And then the FED takes over and prints and prints and prints money forever. End of happy ending story because the markets go up and up and up. Once it starts coming down the Fed will be back at their printing press and the markets will bounce again. This is true capitalism at work.
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  30. This is my email to Arun which was sent recently:
    I really lost faith in you. There is clear example of vested interest here. I can prove that:
    Few months back you send out email saying you were invested in Poddar Developers around 80 or so and i think it was trading around 800 at the time of your disclosure and you said i didn't inform to my subscribers of blog just because you were not sure, then why the hell you invested in that. Now, you got the story going and it's almost reach at 1400 odd. in no time and is being 1400% percent up in a year or so, you're adding more and suggesting us to buy now just for Long term. This is insane. If you would have throw up idea at the time of your buying, i could have believed even if that idea failed. I dont care because you bought & you were believed, so you should have stated at that time or even after it jumped 50% after your buying level, so that you're sure of things. Good bye for forever.

    STAY AWAY FROM SUCH GURUS, who doesn't know what Guru means.

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    1. I totally agree with u, he is a fraudster....Those stocks which are already at the top he recommend these stocks

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    2. I totally agree with u, he is a fraudster....Those stocks which are already at the top he recommend these stocks

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  31. i lost 10 lakh due to him.... why blame him... blame yourself being greedy... because of him now i know how to read financial report and analyse the stock by my self... long way to go.. do not trust gurus, TV commentators... TV18.. just take tips from them and do your own analysis.

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  32. yes arun mukherjee is a big fraud i am now start to follow valuepickblog.blogspot.com i think it is a good and new and fresh blog.

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  33. My best experience is from value-picks.blogspot.com.Though it is free of cost , far better than many other paid sites.

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  35. The portfolio is at 18% profit as of today. The author of this blog mentions about 12 stocks that he has invested in. If Rs. 50,000 (fifty thousand) was invested in each stock, it would have been an investment of Rs. 6 Lakhs in total. I looked into today's current price of each stock and realized that the total value of those 12 stocks today would be around 7 Lakhs. In other words, Rs. 6 Lakhs invested equally among the 12 mentioned stocks in 2010, at the price mentioned by the author, would be around Rs. 7 Lakhs at today's current price. In short, Rs. 6 Lakhs of investment would be Rs. 7 Lakhs today. This means that the investment would have yielded a profit of 1 lakh i.e. 18% profit. Mold Tek Tech and SMS Pharma which are in the list mentioned are multibaggers today.This shows that investment in the long term is likely to yield better results. Now, don't start comparing this 18% profit over 5 years with Fixed deposit and state that fixed deposits would have yielded better results. Note that portfolio management requires reviewing the portfolio periodically and selling the non-performers based on studying the annual reports of the companies and analyzing financial statements. All the Best!

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    1. Look like you are Mukherjee who is spamming with new ids. One buy stock for three things:
      1. Buy a business
      2. Good earnings growth
      3. Return more than risk free return or bonds.
      Half of the stocks are fraud companies either closed or caught red handed. Other 3-4 are reporting losses for years now and sick companies. Analyst job is to find companies with good competitive advantage not do pimpigiri or copy others.
      by the way all tom dick harry stocks have been flying with modi wave. The result of 18% in this period is actually negative return in side ways market!

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  37. very sad... don't invest in penny stock ...try bluechip

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  38. catalyst wealth is doing reasonably good job, 70 to 80%success,

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  39. it is katalyst wealth. iam not related to the owner of katalyst wealth iam a genuine investor

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  40. Any experience/view on Saral Gyan?

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  41. Be sure before you are going for any stock, its very important to review your stock.

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  42. Arun mukherjee is a fraudster who continuously tweet and write the blogs about the stocks which he and his team had bought at a cheap rate. They gradually offload all the stocks among the investors community. please beware about these fraudsters.

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  43. If Arun Mukherjee is a real Investor then, he should be concerned with his own portfolio.
    why he is doing all the social work by writing blogs or by tweeting on the stocks?
    f he has already made enough money with a mere rs.1000/-
    why he wants other investors should follow his blogs and subscribe his mobile app and paid service?

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  44. He get paid for spamming including duplicate ids on MMB, paid per message on MMB. Money control whose channel completely lost out to ET now, have created these bogus message boards to become a vehicle for fraudsters.Mukherjee's latest fraud campaign is Microsec Financial Services.

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  45. Stay away from such unknown self declared experts. It is quite tricky to go with TV recommendations as well . One expert says itx stock will fetch 25 % upside, in the same channel other expert advise to sell the same x stock :).

    Well. I have subscribed to Prudent Equity and Paulasset , Both are doing good so far , still long way to go .

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  46. Hello Friends,
    Reading this blog and the fellow comments I came to know that arun is a fraudster and we need to study on our own - however have anyone from here visited - Bhavikk Shah's Blog
    I visited it and found okay .. he writes good (especially the stories I liked - Stock Market Stories ) , and have followed some of his calls and have succeeded too - but just want to know u peoples view on it
    Thanks in Advance

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  47. In his latest blog he is teaching how to make 1 crore with just 3lakh rupees, how a investing wizard talk non sense like this. Is this different from those chit fund companies Ads???
    Why SEBI wont take action against these fraudsters(now its Arun and his two tails) and how they are conducting seminars in different cities and looting money

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  48. any idea about Saral Gyan advisory ?
    please send your comments
    pramod.

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  49. from above portfolio, even today all companies are bleeding except 'Ok Play'stock.

    The fact that he charges and remain irresponsible speak of his nature. He venture into small cap cause it is place to trap investor. Easy to sell those stocks and play in hand with promoters.

    He is inviting ppl for various workshop but its not really for knowledge sharing or educating. He is charging like 5k to 7k per workshop in every cities he visit. Also, pitching us to enroll and invest through his PMS.

    Good Luck his investors!

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  50. Arun is a fraudster marketing person, who does a job for an operators. His modus - operandi is to recommend the stocks at the highest price. He does with the help of social networking platform. He continuously tweet or write blogs for the stocks at the highest price where the operators gradually, distribute their shares to general public.

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  51. I wonder why Sebi Don't take Action amongst these fraudster.

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  52. Please complaint to SEBI, avoid these fraudsters.

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    Paul asset is waste of your hard earned money

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